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How to use "For Each" tag loop on each object

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  • D Deeeds

    @iTap-Development You're absolutely right. It's not. I'm just trying to figure out how you'd glean this information from the current documentation. I couldn't, and I know what Value Types and Reference Types are, but the documentation lead me to believe they were talking about types, not Types of types.

    And the inconsistencies in the documentation and app (which are legion) combined with the default choice being this operation mode made me think it was about the type of values IN the array that they were concerning themselves with, hence the talk about JSON, which solves a problem of JavaScript, that it can have arrays with multiple types of content... which can be a mess when communicating with others, wherein it needs to be forced to use arrays of a single type... hence the potential significance of talking about the OTHER type of types.

    I hope I have time to think about explaining this again. I'm sure I can do better ;)

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    @Deeeds I don’t think I used the documentation. I just tried it out.

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    • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

      @Deeeds I don’t think I used the documentation. I just tried it out.

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      @iTap-Development So did I. It didn't work. Pointer made no apparent difference to each type's response.

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      • D Deeeds

        @iTap-Development So did I. It didn't work. Pointer made no apparent difference to each type's response.

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        @Deeeds I can’t remember exactly how pointers work... @Hamed, how do the work?

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        • D Deeeds

          @iTap-Development So did I. It didn't work. Pointer made no apparent difference to each type's response.

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          @Deeeds but in the example you made, I don’t think there would be a difference that you could see. I think it has something to do with outputs being in an array. Like if they set it once or update it continually. But don’t quote me on that!

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          • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

            @Deeeds but in the example you made, I don’t think there would be a difference that you could see. I think it has something to do with outputs being in an array. Like if they set it once or update it continually. But don’t quote me on that!

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            @iTap-Development Ironic. I've just added a similar comment to an old question you asked about this that Hamed replied to. I don't think using "Pointer" here is the right question being asked.

            You've nailed it, this is about continuous update versus single update. Which is a policy, not anything to do with pointers, per se.

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            • D Deeeds

              @Kamdroid

              it only takes a couple of seconds

              No. this is absolute nonsense. Patently false.

              If it only took a couple of seconds, I'd sometimes have done it.

              Save my project... several minutes, sometimes as much as minutes.

              Recreate the issue in another project that isolates this problem.

              Several minutes, depending on the problem. And there's no way to copy anything from one project to another...

              etc.

              And, secondly, there's no need, in this case or any of the others I've posited so far.

              A brief scan of what could go wrong isolates where someone might go wrong.

              I even speculated about it before I figured it out, and got that right.

              For someone familiar with the process it must be much more obvious where the tripping points are.

              ....

              A better question, why aren't there isolate examples of using every single feature of hyperPad if it's so easy to share?

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              @Deeeds said in How to use "For Each" tag loop on each object:

              @Kamdroid

              it only takes a couple of seconds

              No. this is absolute nonsense. Patently false.

              If it only took a couple of seconds, I'd sometimes have done it.

              Save my project... several minutes, sometimes as much as minutes.

              Recreate the issue in another project that isolates this problem.

              Several minutes, depending on the problem. And there's no way to copy anything from one project to another...

              etc.

              .......
              A better question, why aren't there isolate examples of using every single feature of hyperPad if it's so easy to share?

              Because it’s uneccessary in most cases. There is documentation for each behaviour, that was enough for me to get where I am now.

              Also, how does it take that long for your projects to save? There must be something really wrong. Could you upload a screen video of it saving, it’s too unbelievable.

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              • KamdroidK Kamdroid

                @Deeeds said in How to use "For Each" tag loop on each object:

                @Kamdroid

                it only takes a couple of seconds

                No. this is absolute nonsense. Patently false.

                If it only took a couple of seconds, I'd sometimes have done it.

                Save my project... several minutes, sometimes as much as minutes.

                Recreate the issue in another project that isolates this problem.

                Several minutes, depending on the problem. And there's no way to copy anything from one project to another...

                etc.

                .......
                A better question, why aren't there isolate examples of using every single feature of hyperPad if it's so easy to share?

                Because it’s uneccessary in most cases. There is documentation for each behaviour, that was enough for me to get where I am now.

                Also, how does it take that long for your projects to save? There must be something really wrong. Could you upload a screen video of it saving, it’s too unbelievable.

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                @Kamdroid
                Do I answer to you?

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                • D Deeeds

                  @Kamdroid
                  Do I answer to you?

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                  @Deeeds ? If you want to?

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                  • KamdroidK Kamdroid

                    @Deeeds ? If you want to?

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                    @Kamdroid Not in this case. I have far better things to do. And I'm sure you do, too.

                    You can believe me, or not. I couldn't care less.

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                    • KamdroidK Kamdroid

                      @Deeeds said in How to use "For Each" tag loop on each object:

                      @Kamdroid

                      it only takes a couple of seconds

                      No. this is absolute nonsense. Patently false.

                      If it only took a couple of seconds, I'd sometimes have done it.

                      Save my project... several minutes, sometimes as much as minutes.

                      Recreate the issue in another project that isolates this problem.

                      Several minutes, depending on the problem. And there's no way to copy anything from one project to another...

                      etc.

                      .......
                      A better question, why aren't there isolate examples of using every single feature of hyperPad if it's so easy to share?

                      Because it’s uneccessary in most cases. There is documentation for each behaviour, that was enough for me to get where I am now.

                      Also, how does it take that long for your projects to save? There must be something really wrong. Could you upload a screen video of it saving, it’s too unbelievable.

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                      @Kamdroid I was going to suggest a screen recording too....oh well

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                      • D Deeeds

                        @Kamdroid
                        Do I answer to you?

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                        @Deeeds where did you answering to him come from?! Asking for screen video? That was a request, not a command. Key word “could”.
                        Although, answering to him isn’t all that bad of an idea!

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                        • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

                          @Deeeds where did you answering to him come from?! Asking for screen video? That was a request, not a command. Key word “could”.
                          Although, answering to him isn’t all that bad of an idea!

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                          @iTap-Development

                          Said in isolation, the word "could" sounds amicable enough.

                          Now put it back into its context and it's a whole different meaning:

                          Also, how does it take that long for your projects to save? There must be something really wrong. Could you upload a screen video of it saving, it’s too unbelievable.


                          He's not expressing concern for my condition, or the situation. He's asking me to prove to him what is happening because he finds it unbelievable.

                          Now, just for arguments sake, let's imagine that it IS happening. Because it is happening this way.

                          Now I have to record the video for however long (it's longer now, I've added more graphics) and then imagine that I have to edit it (speed it up) and then compress it and then upload it.

                          To satisfy a relative stranger's curiosity.

                          That's where my response came from.

                          Next time you want to remove the context, probably best if you don't.

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                            @iTap-Development

                            Said in isolation, the word "could" sounds amicable enough.

                            Now put it back into its context and it's a whole different meaning:

                            Also, how does it take that long for your projects to save? There must be something really wrong. Could you upload a screen video of it saving, it’s too unbelievable.


                            He's not expressing concern for my condition, or the situation. He's asking me to prove to him what is happening because he finds it unbelievable.

                            Now, just for arguments sake, let's imagine that it IS happening. Because it is happening this way.

                            Now I have to record the video for however long (it's longer now, I've added more graphics) and then imagine that I have to edit it (speed it up) and then compress it and then upload it.

                            To satisfy a relative stranger's curiosity.

                            That's where my response came from.

                            Next time you want to remove the context, probably best if you don't.

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                            @Deeeds ok, I asked if you want, you said no, done.

                            However, I suggest that you report this issue your having to the developer as they can potentionally fix this unexpected behaviour

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                            • D Deeeds

                              @iTap-Development

                              Said in isolation, the word "could" sounds amicable enough.

                              Now put it back into its context and it's a whole different meaning:

                              Also, how does it take that long for your projects to save? There must be something really wrong. Could you upload a screen video of it saving, it’s too unbelievable.


                              He's not expressing concern for my condition, or the situation. He's asking me to prove to him what is happening because he finds it unbelievable.

                              Now, just for arguments sake, let's imagine that it IS happening. Because it is happening this way.

                              Now I have to record the video for however long (it's longer now, I've added more graphics) and then imagine that I have to edit it (speed it up) and then compress it and then upload it.

                              To satisfy a relative stranger's curiosity.

                              That's where my response came from.

                              Next time you want to remove the context, probably best if you don't.

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                              @Deeeds did you read your own post? You just said, “He’s asking me to prove to him what is happening”
                              Asking isn’t commanding!
                              Why do you feel the need to twist what he said?

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                              • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

                                @Deeeds did you read your own post? You just said, “He’s asking me to prove to him what is happening”
                                Asking isn’t commanding!
                                Why do you feel the need to twist what he said?

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                                @iTap-Development read the context.

                                He's coming just short of calling me a liar.

                                But instead of doing that, he asks me to waste 20+ minutes proving that I'm not.

                                That's far worse. I'd prefer he have the courage to call me a liar, if that's what he thinks.

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                                • D Deeeds

                                  @iTap-Development read the context.

                                  He's coming just short of calling me a liar.

                                  But instead of doing that, he asks me to waste 20+ minutes proving that I'm not.

                                  That's far worse. I'd prefer he have the courage to call me a liar, if that's what he thinks.

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                                  @Deeeds he probably thinks it’s an exaggeration, which frankly I might too.
                                  But if no one else is having the issue, I guess you’ll have to suffer alone.😄

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                                  • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

                                    @Deeeds he probably thinks it’s an exaggeration, which frankly I might too.
                                    But if no one else is having the issue, I guess you’ll have to suffer alone.😄

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                                    @iTap-Development It doesn't matter what either of you think or feel.

                                    I experience it.

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                                    • D Deeeds

                                      @iTap-Development It doesn't matter what either of you think or feel.

                                      I experience it.

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                                      @Deeeds is it the first half where it like zips it, or is the second half when it uploads it to your cloud storage?

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                                      • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

                                        @Deeeds is it the first half where it like zips it, or is the second half when it uploads it to your cloud storage?

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                                        @iTap-Development

                                        I'm not asking help with this. It cannot be remedied.

                                        It is the least of my problems.

                                        And you're going in the wrong direction.

                                        I'm much more interested in conceptual and holistic understanding.

                                        If you don't understand or relate to that last sentence, don't worry. Just forget about it.

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                                          @iTap-Development

                                          I'm not asking help with this. It cannot be remedied.

                                          It is the least of my problems.

                                          And you're going in the wrong direction.

                                          I'm much more interested in conceptual and holistic understanding.

                                          If you don't understand or relate to that last sentence, don't worry. Just forget about it.

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                                          @Deeeds why can’t it be remedied?

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