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  • StanicaS Stanica

    @SplitMindGaming Buy a cheap used laptop from Kijiji and install Unity/Game Maker/Unreal and go nuts. I was doing game dev on a netbook in 2013.

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    @Stanica I have a MacBook Pro I just wish it was touch screen. I actually did mess around with each of those softwares. Unreal engine is really nice how it has blueprints. It’s just that game engine is more geared toward 3D. Their 2d platform has actually not been supported for a few years now. It’s why I had to ditch that route. Unity however has a real nice 2d option that has all the lights, parallax feature and access to the countless asset store and plugins you can integrate from within. It even has a built in rig editor which is basically spine 2d inside their software to create animations. Game maker I messed with for about a week. It’s cool if it’s also visual scripting but the fact it uses its own language called GML doesn’t play nice when it’s time to learn another software like unreal engine. The best option for 2D is unity but then again testing it on iOS requires unity remote and your device to be hard wired to your pc just to test it out. HyperPad really is the best software out there when it comes to building a straight forward 2D game.

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    • SplitMindGamingS SplitMindGaming

      @Stanica I have a MacBook Pro I just wish it was touch screen. I actually did mess around with each of those softwares. Unreal engine is really nice how it has blueprints. It’s just that game engine is more geared toward 3D. Their 2d platform has actually not been supported for a few years now. It’s why I had to ditch that route. Unity however has a real nice 2d option that has all the lights, parallax feature and access to the countless asset store and plugins you can integrate from within. It even has a built in rig editor which is basically spine 2d inside their software to create animations. Game maker I messed with for about a week. It’s cool if it’s also visual scripting but the fact it uses its own language called GML doesn’t play nice when it’s time to learn another software like unreal engine. The best option for 2D is unity but then again testing it on iOS requires unity remote and your device to be hard wired to your pc just to test it out. HyperPad really is the best software out there when it comes to building a straight forward 2D game.

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      @SplitMindGaming You can also jailbreak your iPad and use Phaser/PixiJS for on-device JavaScript game dev :D

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      • StanicaS Stanica

        @SplitMindGaming You can also jailbreak your iPad and use Phaser/PixiJS for on-device JavaScript game dev :D

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        @Stanica hmm ive never heard of that. I will look into it

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        • SplitMindGamingS SplitMindGaming

          @Stanica hmm ive never heard of that. I will look into it

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          @SplitMindGaming What is actually limiting your game? So far I haven't been stopped much by limits other than lag. 3D doesn't exist in hyperPad? Fine I'll make it myself, etc.

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          • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

            @SplitMindGaming What is actually limiting your game? So far I haven't been stopped much by limits other than lag. 3D doesn't exist in hyperPad? Fine I'll make it myself, etc.

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            @Aidan-Oxley right now its the screen wrap bug. Alot of elements in my game has to be placed in various exact locations that fit well across multiple screens. Its why i use relative position. Also the overall look of my first level needs lighting for sure as i had plans for dark rooms and only the light from his jetpack to shine the way. Also i had plans to use depth of field objects that parallax with each level. I also wanted to have color grading so the final look can have a haunting feel to it and is consistent with each level of the game. Without these things it would just look bland. Though alot of games actually look like this. I need my game to impose a certain feel the moment someone plays it. The game i showed the developers is only like 10 percent done and alot of the images are actually place holders for whats to come. I compose all my music and also draw and edit all my animations. The main focus im going for is the storyline. Then great visuals and music to compliment the story line. My only weakness is development. Thats why alot of graphic designers such as myself tend to lean toward visual scripting this way we can focus more on the gameplay itself.

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            • SplitMindGamingS SplitMindGaming

              @Aidan-Oxley right now its the screen wrap bug. Alot of elements in my game has to be placed in various exact locations that fit well across multiple screens. Its why i use relative position. Also the overall look of my first level needs lighting for sure as i had plans for dark rooms and only the light from his jetpack to shine the way. Also i had plans to use depth of field objects that parallax with each level. I also wanted to have color grading so the final look can have a haunting feel to it and is consistent with each level of the game. Without these things it would just look bland. Though alot of games actually look like this. I need my game to impose a certain feel the moment someone plays it. The game i showed the developers is only like 10 percent done and alot of the images are actually place holders for whats to come. I compose all my music and also draw and edit all my animations. The main focus im going for is the storyline. Then great visuals and music to compliment the story line. My only weakness is development. Thats why alot of graphic designers such as myself tend to lean toward visual scripting this way we can focus more on the gameplay itself.

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              @SplitMindGaming I think it's possible to get a smooth working workaround to the wrapping screen bug. Also have you tried making lighting effects yourself using objects? If you want a dark room you can make a large graphic that is completely black but in the middle you have a blurred hole cut out of it, and you could put that on the screen following the player to give the dark room effect.

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              • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                @SplitMindGaming I think it's possible to get a smooth working workaround to the wrapping screen bug. Also have you tried making lighting effects yourself using objects? If you want a dark room you can make a large graphic that is completely black but in the middle you have a blurred hole cut out of it, and you could put that on the screen following the player to give the dark room effect.

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                @Aidan-Oxley that’s a cool workaround although it is ghetto lol. But with a little smoke and mirrors I think that can pull it off. But what I had in mind where true lighting effects with fall off radius values and spotlights. I also learned cocos2d already can do this natively within its code structure. This is not from cocos2d but this video shows it in effect with unity. It’s pretty cool how you can also change the color value to match the light source.

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                  #32

                  Hey guys just want to jump in here.

                  Cocos2D’s built in lighting is awful and slow. When we were implementing we made our own from scratch. Unfortunately, it was put on hold because we had to redesign how layers are setup, and the UI / usability around it.

                  Yes Unity has lights, and unity has a lot of amazing features. But having the ability to write your own shaders or add code to objects makes things significantly easier. But its also harder if you want to deal with code, or their toolset.

                  Also, our entire dev tools are designed around touch and ease of use and overall usability. We don’t like just stuffing everything into a behaviour if we don’t have to.

                  Spine based animations super cool and I can’t wait to add it after lighting and shareable objects / behaviours

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                  • SplitMindGamingS SplitMindGaming

                    @Aidan-Oxley that’s a cool workaround although it is ghetto lol. But with a little smoke and mirrors I think that can pull it off. But what I had in mind where true lighting effects with fall off radius values and spotlights. I also learned cocos2d already can do this natively within its code structure. This is not from cocos2d but this video shows it in effect with unity. It’s pretty cool how you can also change the color value to match the light source.

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                    @SplitMindGaming If you use a blurry circle graphic like this:
                    75723BD8-8CF7-4046-8D5A-884B5FFEC02A.jpeg and give it the dodge effect, it can look like a glowing light too.

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                      Also, we need to add cut / paste / undo / redo to behaviours while we’re throwing more stuff for me to add

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                        I’m going to push up a beta update in a couple of days so you guys aren’t blocked on making your games waiting for the update

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                        • HamedH Hamed

                          I’m going to push up a beta update in a couple of days so you guys aren’t blocked on making your games waiting for the update

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                          @Hamed you know I love you right

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