Arrays Don't like Negative Numbers
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I’m pretty sure the HyperPad devs themselves would like a project which is creating the issue you speak of.
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@Kamdroid I'm pretty sure he's capable of asking for himself, if (and when) he needs it. Until then, I have other things to do.
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@Deeeds if I were you I wouldn’t accuse @Aidan-Oxley of making assumptions.
You said, “that even an overworked and grossly underpaid (and isolated) Hamed
should know about and put somewhere on his near infinite todo list.”Then said, “Stop making RIDICULOUS assumptions”
Um....what?Everybody is just trying to help get the problem fixed, and just want your Cooperation.
I don’t see how sharing an example is so hard.....you could have done it 100 times instead of all the posts explaining why you won’t! -
@iTap-Development If you care so much, you should read the whole thread, and all the other bug reports and issues I've written about.
I'm NOT going to spend extra time on each and every one of them, or any one of them, until asked by someone in a position to do something about it. That should be common sense.
As to the assumptions about Hamed.... I note you've avoided the most important one...
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@Deeeds I have read the whole thread. And what assumption did I avoid? I copied and pasted. I thought I had them all. And NONE of them were important lol
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@iTap-Development The bit about the majority of the code being written by someone else...
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@Deeeds also, it’s common sense to be able to demonstrate the problem.
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@Deeeds how do you know that?
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@iTap-Development It's not a problem. It's a bug.
There are so many bugs in hyperPad that I'm sure Hamed has his work cut out for him, and will know much of the relationships between them and where they stem from. Simply pointing them out to him, that they happen, and where they happen, will probably reinforce his perceptions of some areas of sources of problems.
In other cases he may well not know about it, and will likely ask, specifically, how and what lead to it... and I'll help him then. Until then, I don't feel compelled to waste more time on any one bug when I can continue exploring hyperPad and find many more... that I have to work around to achieve what I want, and report on when I feel the need/desire/point.
I'm going to assume you've never worked with a project sized code base.
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@Deeeds bug, problem, don’t split hairs.
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@Deeeds you are forming opinions based off your assumptions....not recommended.
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@iTap-Development There was a founder that was the chief architect of the project and programming lead and has a history of exploring cocos2D, the technology this is based on. It was likely his idea to build GamPress, or that of someone close to him. Their sources sources of inspiration are something that should be looked into. Many of his ideas that became GamePress and then hyperPad show that he did some research (but not enough) and that he was thinking in competing and conflicting directions at the same time. That he or his mentors were confused about the nature of digital creativity and interactivity. They were trying to blend ideas of social networks and community with development. That split has compromised the core endeavour, more so in hyperPad than in GamePress, ironically.
All of this is public knowledge.
He left.
Whenever a programming lead leaves, things slow down MASSIVELY. And if you look at the rate of updates and what was updated and added, you can get a good sense of when he left.
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@Deeeds if it’s public, can you tell me where I can find the information? I’m not saying you are wrong, but I am curious.
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@iTap-Development the real cost of any tool is learning to use it and working around its limitations.
When a tool also has problems and bugs (and hyperPad has both, and they are VERY different things) then the burden of cost is borne by the users, over and over again... despite the fact they're also paying for the service.
hyperPad has fundamental problems.
And systemic bugginess.
It crashes EVERY single time it launches on a reopened iPad. I have never seen any other app be this consistent in crashing. Nor even close to it. That should be something that's immediately fixed. It's amazing that Apple's not doing something about it.
hyperPad drains battery faster than the most intensive 3D games on an iPad, when it's in Editor mode. That's something VERY buggy, and a problem. And it goes on and on and on...
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@iTap-Development said in Arrays Don't like Negative Numbers:
@Deeeds if it’s public, can you tell me where I can find the information? I’m not saying you are wrong, but I am curious.
Well?
And if hyperPad is so bad, just leave.
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@iTap-Development First, they talk about their relationship on VC and startup sites, a few years back. I didn't bookmark this stuff, just did a quick group of searches into the history of the project before I decided to invest more time in learning and using it.
One guy is largely responsible for the whole thing and roped two of his cousins into the project. They raised a bit of money a few times, I think the biggest was 120k at some point, but am going from memory.
Then there's the status of the linkedIn, etc... and the updates stall out, and there's some very interesting comments about community and intent by @Murtaza sprinkled through the history of this forum.
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@Deeeds are you talking about behroz? I think that was his name. Murtaza said he moved to a different country.
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@Deeeds Murtaza mentioned on Reddit that they had around $300,000 invested, around a year ago. @ThomasV is (or at least was 5 months ago when he messaged me) a software developer at hyperPad, although I don't know exactly who does what. I haven't heard of anyone else other than Hamed and Behroz related to hyperPad or GamePress.
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