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    • iTap DevelopmentI
      iTap Development @Deeeds
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      @Deeeds that’s why I suggested sharing a project! Glad you figured it out!

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        Deeeds @iTap Development
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        @iTap-Development How would that help to share a project for that?

        This is why I asked you about conceptual thinking.

        The question contains the problem.

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        • iTap DevelopmentI
          iTap Development @Deeeds
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          @Deeeds because I could have looked at it and potentially found the problem, especially since I’ve built similar before.

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            Deeeds @iTap Development
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            @iTap-Development I'll say this once again:

            The problem is CONCEPTUAL!

            How does one do this kind of thing in this engine with its limited sense of relationships?

            That is the question and the problem.

            This is not about one specific effort, this is about understanding the limitations of this engine and its approaches to relationships.

            Is it making sense what I'm asking, now?

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            • iTap DevelopmentI
              iTap Development @Deeeds
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              @Deeeds you asked a specific question about a specific problem you were having with a specific behavior. Sure, you are wondering about the concept, but also specifically asked, “can a receiver use a variable as the Event Key?”. So stop with the concept nonsense.

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                Deeeds @iTap Development
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                @iTap-Development It's in the very first word of the original post:

                "imagine"

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                  Deeeds @iTap Development
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                  @iTap-Development Think outside the bun.

                  The question, the Original post, is the problem trying to be solved. That is a CONCEPTUAL problem.

                  Along the way to solving that might be some examples, and I posited one, a buddy relationship. You're welcome to use other examples. But the problem remains conceptual. How does one reference a buddy of a spawned mate?

                  Whilst I thought I'd solved this problem, I have not.

                  Can you demonstrate that it's possible?

                  That might be a better way to use your literalist thinking.

                  Here's the example that demonstrates the problem.

                  Spawning 3 mates.

                  Each mate then spawns a buddy.

                  Each mate wants to be able to communicate with his buddy.

                  Is this possible in this engine?

                  At this point, I'm saying no. It seems broadcasting gets hung up around the first instance for the spawned buddy.

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                  • iTap DevelopmentI
                    iTap Development @Deeeds
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                    @Deeeds I’ll see about building that....I might not have time tonight, but I’ll try.

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                      iTap Development @Deeeds
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                      @Deeeds what would you like them to communicate?

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                        iTap Development @Deeeds
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                        @Deeeds is having the mate and buddy see each other’s position and move based on the position(or something like that) good enough?

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                          Deeeds @iTap Development
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                          @iTap-Development For an example of communication, think of something that can only be seen internally by mate and buddy. Say, for example, the result of some calculation in Mate that he wants to share with his buddy.

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                            Deeeds @iTap Development
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                            @iTap-Development and CHEERS ! For the time and consideration. THANK YOU!

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                            • KamdroidK
                              Kamdroid @Deeeds
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                              @Deeeds Yes, it is possible, but not as easy as you’d like.

                              This is for my new “KrystalOS” (touch-screen OS simulator)
                              I’ve successfully made a Loop spawn my “App_Base” object, each of their X coord is unique (in the spawn Loop, SpawnObjectX = LoopIndex).

                              After this loop finishes, another loop runs which broadcasts to each individual app by using their unique broadcast key (from the x position) in the broadcast, I send them their App Name and App Index.

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                                iTap Development @Deeeds
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                                @Deeeds great! I’ll see what I can do.

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                                  Deeeds @Kamdroid
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                                  @Kamdroid This is very similar to my testbed.

                                  The initial loop is exactly like yours, the index is used as an ID for the spawned objects.

                                  Then the spawned objects are each spawning One buddy for themselves, and giving him that ID as channel to receive messages on.

                                  Then the "master" will sometimes send details about events in its world to its buddy. And this is where things aren't working as expected, or reliably.

                                  That I need to go to this degree of bother is also INFURIATING me. It's not often I beg for encapsulation and polymorphism. But I do today.

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                                    Deeeds @Kamdroid
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                                    @Kamdroid This has taught me a very dirty trick. I spawn the objects to a position of x based on their index, and then, inside them, use a "get position" to create their ID, then use an array of their desired positions to move them where they should, also based on that index value, as their desired position is in that array.

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                                      Kamdroid @Deeeds
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                                      @Deeeds I honestly don’t find it too dirty, it’s quite easy to implement

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                                        Deeeds @Kamdroid
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                                        @Kamdroid It has an upside, no need for that 0.017 delay before getting doing things internally.

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                                        • HamedH
                                          Hamed Admin
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                                          How I usually handle initialization is by creating a receive message behavior and call it initialize. And every time you spawn an object, broadcast initialize.

                                          Then on the initialize, get a value from a global count somewhere on your scene like an object on global ui that has an attribute like count. Then set the spawned objects “id” attribute to that count. Then increment that count.

                                          Now, the spawned object has an id that you can use before the next time step!

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