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  • D Deeeds

    It is important to always remember that coding sucks. In all its forms. Always.

    If you can find something else to do with your life, or other ways to express yourself, choose them.

    Only as a dire and last resort, go to coding.

    Swift is a deceptively complex and deep language. It's got a simple looking syntax and seems succinct... but if you think it is simple and succinct you're making misconceptions and missing its true nature.

    Swift is a hugely capable language, and huge. It's not nearly as elegant as it might first seem.

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    @deeeds said in Coding Sucks:

    It is important to always remember that coding sucks. In all its forms. Always.

    If you can find something else to do with your life, or other ways to express yourself, choose them.

    Only as a dire and last resort, go to coding.

    Swift is a deceptively complex and deep language. It's got a simple looking syntax and seems succinct... but if you think it is simple and succinct you're making misconceptions and missing its true nature.

    Swift is a hugely capable language, and huge. It's not nearly as elegant as it might first seem.

    Speaking of which, I do not think that coding sucks at all.
    I enjoy challenging myself, and I enjoy thinking more logically and coherently.

    Coding is awesome.

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    • D Deeeds

      It is important to always remember that coding sucks. In all its forms. Always.

      If you can find something else to do with your life, or other ways to express yourself, choose them.

      Only as a dire and last resort, go to coding.

      Swift is a deceptively complex and deep language. It's got a simple looking syntax and seems succinct... but if you think it is simple and succinct you're making misconceptions and missing its true nature.

      Swift is a hugely capable language, and huge. It's not nearly as elegant as it might first seem.

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      @deeeds just saying, a coding forum isnt the best place to be taken seriously when advising against coding, since you’re here too....and not all there.
      Personally, I’d rather have blue light on my face than an L on my forehead....if you know what I mean😆

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      • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

        @deeeds just saying, a coding forum isnt the best place to be taken seriously when advising against coding, since you’re here too....and not all there.
        Personally, I’d rather have blue light on my face than an L on my forehead....if you know what I mean😆

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        Things that suck less than coding:

        Riding
        Driving
        Throwing
        Catching
        Writing
        Painting
        Drawing
        Thinking
        Reading
        Watching
        Listening
        Drinking
        Eating
        Swimming
        Running
        Acting
        Dancing
        Mating
        Rearing
        Celebrating
        Laughing
        Mingling
        Talking
        Walking
        Jesting
        Joking
        Mocking
        Chewing
        Kicking
        Punching

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        • D Deeeds

          Things that suck less than coding:

          Riding
          Driving
          Throwing
          Catching
          Writing
          Painting
          Drawing
          Thinking
          Reading
          Watching
          Listening
          Drinking
          Eating
          Swimming
          Running
          Acting
          Dancing
          Mating
          Rearing
          Celebrating
          Laughing
          Mingling
          Talking
          Walking
          Jesting
          Joking
          Mocking
          Chewing
          Kicking
          Punching

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          @deeeds suck less meaning they still suck?

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          • D Deeeds

            Things that suck less than coding:

            Riding
            Driving
            Throwing
            Catching
            Writing
            Painting
            Drawing
            Thinking
            Reading
            Watching
            Listening
            Drinking
            Eating
            Swimming
            Running
            Acting
            Dancing
            Mating
            Rearing
            Celebrating
            Laughing
            Mingling
            Talking
            Walking
            Jesting
            Joking
            Mocking
            Chewing
            Kicking
            Punching

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            @deeeds said in Coding Sucks:

            Things that suck less than coding:

            Riding
            Driving
            Throwing
            Catching
            Writing
            Painting
            Drawing
            Thinking
            Reading
            Watching
            Listening
            Drinking
            Eating
            Swimming
            Running
            Acting
            Dancing
            Mating
            Rearing
            Celebrating
            Laughing
            Mingling
            Talking
            Walking
            Jesting
            Joking
            Mocking
            Chewing
            Kicking
            Punching

            So seeing as you do coding, you must not do any of the above? “Only as a dire and last resort, go to coding.”

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            • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

              @deeeds said in Coding Sucks:

              Things that suck less than coding:

              Riding
              Driving
              Throwing
              Catching
              Writing
              Painting
              Drawing
              Thinking
              Reading
              Watching
              Listening
              Drinking
              Eating
              Swimming
              Running
              Acting
              Dancing
              Mating
              Rearing
              Celebrating
              Laughing
              Mingling
              Talking
              Walking
              Jesting
              Joking
              Mocking
              Chewing
              Kicking
              Punching

              So seeing as you do coding, you must not do any of the above? “Only as a dire and last resort, go to coding.”

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              @itap-development

              Things that suck less than coding (continued):

              Contextualising | verb
              Placing or studying in context

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              • D Deeeds

                @itap-development

                Things that suck less than coding (continued):

                Contextualising | verb
                Placing or studying in context

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                #13

                @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

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                  @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

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                  @aidan-oxley I see you're missing the context(s), too.

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                    @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

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                    @Aidan-Oxley I'm surprised you think @iTap-Development has a point.

                    I thought you were more mentally capable. Try to stay in at least some of the contexts of this original post and the subsequent and preceding content and contexts.

                    In order to know the listed activities are some of the things that suck less than coding, I'd have to have done them.

                    And coding.

                    I have.

                    It's not necessary that one other condition be true, but just in case you're that naive about how advice is given:

                    Either:
                    a) I can't find something else to do with my life
                    OR
                    b) am unable to find another way to express myself

                    Say, for example, I dearly want to prototype and show a game concept that's difficult to express to other coders and/or requires a lot of adjustment and refinement to find its sweet spots. That would make the second condition true and justify the use of hyperPad (and coding) whilst not making the first condition true.

                    No straw man to swing at, no hypocrisy to claim.

                    Hold that thought, since it's one you've known before, but seem to have forgotten, as has @iTap-Development.

                    I get that you are keen to see me painted as hypocritical and/or invalidated in what I'm saying. I get that you think any one invalidation of any one thing might make it easier for you to ignore, disparage or forget anything else I've said that's caused you issues.

                    But to do so you're supporting the removal of all context you already know, and denying the most basic of logic and rationale for saying anything negative about coding.

                    Some of which is that I'm giving life advice from the point of view of experience and understanding.

                    So you're setting yourself up to fail at hating on what you're hearing. That will make it true of you.

                    In order to give this advice, with any confidence, I'd have to be older and more experienced than you, and you be young, inexperienced in other forms of coding and, possibly, inexperienced in the joys of some of the activities I've listed as sucking less than coding, whilst hyperPad usage not be a fully fledged example of, or pathway to, a career in coding.

                    I am, you are, hyperPad is not.

                    I know this to be true of both of you, and @GameCRAZY, for whom this thread is intended. This you both know, and is discernible by where this came from and the next piece of content and context: the Swift commentary. If you don't know hyperPad is not a careerist coder's path or tool, I hope you do now.

                    If you still think @iTap-Development has a point, I'm quite sure you're going to struggle with the understanding and retention of contexts needed to make sense of Swift initialisation.

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                    • D Deeeds

                      @Aidan-Oxley I'm surprised you think @iTap-Development has a point.

                      I thought you were more mentally capable. Try to stay in at least some of the contexts of this original post and the subsequent and preceding content and contexts.

                      In order to know the listed activities are some of the things that suck less than coding, I'd have to have done them.

                      And coding.

                      I have.

                      It's not necessary that one other condition be true, but just in case you're that naive about how advice is given:

                      Either:
                      a) I can't find something else to do with my life
                      OR
                      b) am unable to find another way to express myself

                      Say, for example, I dearly want to prototype and show a game concept that's difficult to express to other coders and/or requires a lot of adjustment and refinement to find its sweet spots. That would make the second condition true and justify the use of hyperPad (and coding) whilst not making the first condition true.

                      No straw man to swing at, no hypocrisy to claim.

                      Hold that thought, since it's one you've known before, but seem to have forgotten, as has @iTap-Development.

                      I get that you are keen to see me painted as hypocritical and/or invalidated in what I'm saying. I get that you think any one invalidation of any one thing might make it easier for you to ignore, disparage or forget anything else I've said that's caused you issues.

                      But to do so you're supporting the removal of all context you already know, and denying the most basic of logic and rationale for saying anything negative about coding.

                      Some of which is that I'm giving life advice from the point of view of experience and understanding.

                      So you're setting yourself up to fail at hating on what you're hearing. That will make it true of you.

                      In order to give this advice, with any confidence, I'd have to be older and more experienced than you, and you be young, inexperienced in other forms of coding and, possibly, inexperienced in the joys of some of the activities I've listed as sucking less than coding, whilst hyperPad usage not be a fully fledged example of, or pathway to, a career in coding.

                      I am, you are, hyperPad is not.

                      I know this to be true of both of you, and @GameCRAZY, for whom this thread is intended. This you both know, and is discernible by where this came from and the next piece of content and context: the Swift commentary. If you don't know hyperPad is not a careerist coder's path or tool, I hope you do now.

                      If you still think @iTap-Development has a point, I'm quite sure you're going to struggle with the understanding and retention of contexts needed to make sense of Swift initialisation.

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                      @deeeds, I find coding fun when I'm making something that I want to make, without time constraints or monetary investment.

                      Writing
                      Painting
                      Drawing

                      I prefer coding over these, and I see them as similar things; having an idea in mind and bringing it to life.

                      I play games a lot, and so I want to make games that others would enjoy. I might not succeed or even finish a game, but I still enjoy doing it as a hobby at the moment.

                      If/when I'm doing it as a job I might not like it as much; I don't know since I haven't done it.

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                      • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                        @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

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                        @aidan-oxley said in Coding Sucks:

                        @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

                        Same! 😂

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                          @Deeeds is this this you dancing?
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                          • D Deeeds

                            @Aidan-Oxley I'm surprised you think @iTap-Development has a point.

                            I thought you were more mentally capable. Try to stay in at least some of the contexts of this original post and the subsequent and preceding content and contexts.

                            In order to know the listed activities are some of the things that suck less than coding, I'd have to have done them.

                            And coding.

                            I have.

                            It's not necessary that one other condition be true, but just in case you're that naive about how advice is given:

                            Either:
                            a) I can't find something else to do with my life
                            OR
                            b) am unable to find another way to express myself

                            Say, for example, I dearly want to prototype and show a game concept that's difficult to express to other coders and/or requires a lot of adjustment and refinement to find its sweet spots. That would make the second condition true and justify the use of hyperPad (and coding) whilst not making the first condition true.

                            No straw man to swing at, no hypocrisy to claim.

                            Hold that thought, since it's one you've known before, but seem to have forgotten, as has @iTap-Development.

                            I get that you are keen to see me painted as hypocritical and/or invalidated in what I'm saying. I get that you think any one invalidation of any one thing might make it easier for you to ignore, disparage or forget anything else I've said that's caused you issues.

                            But to do so you're supporting the removal of all context you already know, and denying the most basic of logic and rationale for saying anything negative about coding.

                            Some of which is that I'm giving life advice from the point of view of experience and understanding.

                            So you're setting yourself up to fail at hating on what you're hearing. That will make it true of you.

                            In order to give this advice, with any confidence, I'd have to be older and more experienced than you, and you be young, inexperienced in other forms of coding and, possibly, inexperienced in the joys of some of the activities I've listed as sucking less than coding, whilst hyperPad usage not be a fully fledged example of, or pathway to, a career in coding.

                            I am, you are, hyperPad is not.

                            I know this to be true of both of you, and @GameCRAZY, for whom this thread is intended. This you both know, and is discernible by where this came from and the next piece of content and context: the Swift commentary. If you don't know hyperPad is not a careerist coder's path or tool, I hope you do now.

                            If you still think @iTap-Development has a point, I'm quite sure you're going to struggle with the understanding and retention of contexts needed to make sense of Swift initialisation.

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                            @deeeds I do not know what to say. Just, What?

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                              @Aidan-Oxley I'm surprised you think @iTap-Development has a point.

                              I thought you were more mentally capable. Try to stay in at least some of the contexts of this original post and the subsequent and preceding content and contexts.

                              In order to know the listed activities are some of the things that suck less than coding, I'd have to have done them.

                              And coding.

                              I have.

                              It's not necessary that one other condition be true, but just in case you're that naive about how advice is given:

                              Either:
                              a) I can't find something else to do with my life
                              OR
                              b) am unable to find another way to express myself

                              Say, for example, I dearly want to prototype and show a game concept that's difficult to express to other coders and/or requires a lot of adjustment and refinement to find its sweet spots. That would make the second condition true and justify the use of hyperPad (and coding) whilst not making the first condition true.

                              No straw man to swing at, no hypocrisy to claim.

                              Hold that thought, since it's one you've known before, but seem to have forgotten, as has @iTap-Development.

                              I get that you are keen to see me painted as hypocritical and/or invalidated in what I'm saying. I get that you think any one invalidation of any one thing might make it easier for you to ignore, disparage or forget anything else I've said that's caused you issues.

                              But to do so you're supporting the removal of all context you already know, and denying the most basic of logic and rationale for saying anything negative about coding.

                              Some of which is that I'm giving life advice from the point of view of experience and understanding.

                              So you're setting yourself up to fail at hating on what you're hearing. That will make it true of you.

                              In order to give this advice, with any confidence, I'd have to be older and more experienced than you, and you be young, inexperienced in other forms of coding and, possibly, inexperienced in the joys of some of the activities I've listed as sucking less than coding, whilst hyperPad usage not be a fully fledged example of, or pathway to, a career in coding.

                              I am, you are, hyperPad is not.

                              I know this to be true of both of you, and @GameCRAZY, for whom this thread is intended. This you both know, and is discernible by where this came from and the next piece of content and context: the Swift commentary. If you don't know hyperPad is not a careerist coder's path or tool, I hope you do now.

                              If you still think @iTap-Development has a point, I'm quite sure you're going to struggle with the understanding and retention of contexts needed to make sense of Swift initialisation.

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                              @deeeds since dancing has been mentioned;
                              Advising other coders not to code(while coding yourself) because you think it sucks, is equivalent to showing up for your dance class and dancing and telling everyone it sucks and that they should avoid it if possible.

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                              • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

                                @deeeds since dancing has been mentioned;
                                Advising other coders not to code(while coding yourself) because you think it sucks, is equivalent to showing up for your dance class and dancing and telling everyone it sucks and that they should avoid it if possible.

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                                @itap-development Lol yep.

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                                  @itap-development Lol yep.

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                                  @aidan-oxley You can't possibly fail that badly at logic without deliberately doing so.

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                                    @itap-development Lol yep.

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                                    @iTap-Development You're special.

                                    Start here: https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

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                                      @iTap-Development You're special.

                                      Start here: https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

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                                      @deeeds I have no idea what you’re talking about. You said coding sucks in a forum full of people that like coding. How is that different to as iTap said going into say a dancing class then telling everyone that dancing sucks? The response you’ll most likely get from everyone is “then why are you here?”.

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                                      • D Deeeds

                                        @iTap-Development You're special.

                                        Start here: https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

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                                        @deeeds said in Coding Sucks:

                                        @iTap-Development You're special.

                                        Start here: https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

                                        I’m....flattered!?!?

                                        That is a disgusting looking link 🤮....sorry

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                                        • D Deeeds

                                          @aidan-oxley You can't possibly fail that badly at logic without deliberately doing so.

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                                          @deeeds said in Coding Sucks:

                                          @aidan-oxley You can't possibly fail that badly at logic without deliberately doing so.

                                          Would you mind elaborating on how/what exactly he failed, why it was failure, and what you would consider not failure?

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