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  • D Deeeds

    Things that suck less than coding:

    Riding
    Driving
    Throwing
    Catching
    Writing
    Painting
    Drawing
    Thinking
    Reading
    Watching
    Listening
    Drinking
    Eating
    Swimming
    Running
    Acting
    Dancing
    Mating
    Rearing
    Celebrating
    Laughing
    Mingling
    Talking
    Walking
    Jesting
    Joking
    Mocking
    Chewing
    Kicking
    Punching

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    @deeeds said in Coding Sucks:

    Things that suck less than coding:

    Riding
    Driving
    Throwing
    Catching
    Writing
    Painting
    Drawing
    Thinking
    Reading
    Watching
    Listening
    Drinking
    Eating
    Swimming
    Running
    Acting
    Dancing
    Mating
    Rearing
    Celebrating
    Laughing
    Mingling
    Talking
    Walking
    Jesting
    Joking
    Mocking
    Chewing
    Kicking
    Punching

    So seeing as you do coding, you must not do any of the above? “Only as a dire and last resort, go to coding.”

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    • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

      @deeeds said in Coding Sucks:

      Things that suck less than coding:

      Riding
      Driving
      Throwing
      Catching
      Writing
      Painting
      Drawing
      Thinking
      Reading
      Watching
      Listening
      Drinking
      Eating
      Swimming
      Running
      Acting
      Dancing
      Mating
      Rearing
      Celebrating
      Laughing
      Mingling
      Talking
      Walking
      Jesting
      Joking
      Mocking
      Chewing
      Kicking
      Punching

      So seeing as you do coding, you must not do any of the above? “Only as a dire and last resort, go to coding.”

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      @itap-development

      Things that suck less than coding (continued):

      Contextualising | verb
      Placing or studying in context

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      • D Deeeds

        @itap-development

        Things that suck less than coding (continued):

        Contextualising | verb
        Placing or studying in context

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        #13

        @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

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        • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

          @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

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          @aidan-oxley I see you're missing the context(s), too.

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          • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

            @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

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            @Aidan-Oxley I'm surprised you think @iTap-Development has a point.

            I thought you were more mentally capable. Try to stay in at least some of the contexts of this original post and the subsequent and preceding content and contexts.

            In order to know the listed activities are some of the things that suck less than coding, I'd have to have done them.

            And coding.

            I have.

            It's not necessary that one other condition be true, but just in case you're that naive about how advice is given:

            Either:
            a) I can't find something else to do with my life
            OR
            b) am unable to find another way to express myself

            Say, for example, I dearly want to prototype and show a game concept that's difficult to express to other coders and/or requires a lot of adjustment and refinement to find its sweet spots. That would make the second condition true and justify the use of hyperPad (and coding) whilst not making the first condition true.

            No straw man to swing at, no hypocrisy to claim.

            Hold that thought, since it's one you've known before, but seem to have forgotten, as has @iTap-Development.

            I get that you are keen to see me painted as hypocritical and/or invalidated in what I'm saying. I get that you think any one invalidation of any one thing might make it easier for you to ignore, disparage or forget anything else I've said that's caused you issues.

            But to do so you're supporting the removal of all context you already know, and denying the most basic of logic and rationale for saying anything negative about coding.

            Some of which is that I'm giving life advice from the point of view of experience and understanding.

            So you're setting yourself up to fail at hating on what you're hearing. That will make it true of you.

            In order to give this advice, with any confidence, I'd have to be older and more experienced than you, and you be young, inexperienced in other forms of coding and, possibly, inexperienced in the joys of some of the activities I've listed as sucking less than coding, whilst hyperPad usage not be a fully fledged example of, or pathway to, a career in coding.

            I am, you are, hyperPad is not.

            I know this to be true of both of you, and @GameCRAZY, for whom this thread is intended. This you both know, and is discernible by where this came from and the next piece of content and context: the Swift commentary. If you don't know hyperPad is not a careerist coder's path or tool, I hope you do now.

            If you still think @iTap-Development has a point, I'm quite sure you're going to struggle with the understanding and retention of contexts needed to make sense of Swift initialisation.

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            • D Deeeds

              @Aidan-Oxley I'm surprised you think @iTap-Development has a point.

              I thought you were more mentally capable. Try to stay in at least some of the contexts of this original post and the subsequent and preceding content and contexts.

              In order to know the listed activities are some of the things that suck less than coding, I'd have to have done them.

              And coding.

              I have.

              It's not necessary that one other condition be true, but just in case you're that naive about how advice is given:

              Either:
              a) I can't find something else to do with my life
              OR
              b) am unable to find another way to express myself

              Say, for example, I dearly want to prototype and show a game concept that's difficult to express to other coders and/or requires a lot of adjustment and refinement to find its sweet spots. That would make the second condition true and justify the use of hyperPad (and coding) whilst not making the first condition true.

              No straw man to swing at, no hypocrisy to claim.

              Hold that thought, since it's one you've known before, but seem to have forgotten, as has @iTap-Development.

              I get that you are keen to see me painted as hypocritical and/or invalidated in what I'm saying. I get that you think any one invalidation of any one thing might make it easier for you to ignore, disparage or forget anything else I've said that's caused you issues.

              But to do so you're supporting the removal of all context you already know, and denying the most basic of logic and rationale for saying anything negative about coding.

              Some of which is that I'm giving life advice from the point of view of experience and understanding.

              So you're setting yourself up to fail at hating on what you're hearing. That will make it true of you.

              In order to give this advice, with any confidence, I'd have to be older and more experienced than you, and you be young, inexperienced in other forms of coding and, possibly, inexperienced in the joys of some of the activities I've listed as sucking less than coding, whilst hyperPad usage not be a fully fledged example of, or pathway to, a career in coding.

              I am, you are, hyperPad is not.

              I know this to be true of both of you, and @GameCRAZY, for whom this thread is intended. This you both know, and is discernible by where this came from and the next piece of content and context: the Swift commentary. If you don't know hyperPad is not a careerist coder's path or tool, I hope you do now.

              If you still think @iTap-Development has a point, I'm quite sure you're going to struggle with the understanding and retention of contexts needed to make sense of Swift initialisation.

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              @deeeds, I find coding fun when I'm making something that I want to make, without time constraints or monetary investment.

              Writing
              Painting
              Drawing

              I prefer coding over these, and I see them as similar things; having an idea in mind and bringing it to life.

              I play games a lot, and so I want to make games that others would enjoy. I might not succeed or even finish a game, but I still enjoy doing it as a hobby at the moment.

              If/when I'm doing it as a job I might not like it as much; I don't know since I haven't done it.

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              • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

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                @aidan-oxley said in Coding Sucks:

                @deeeds @iTap-Development has a bit of a point, if you think coding sucks so much, why are you doing it? 😳 EDIT: I read your list. DANCING?! Aaaargh I’d rather drown myself.

                Same! 😂

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                  @Deeeds is this this you dancing?
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                  • D Deeeds

                    @Aidan-Oxley I'm surprised you think @iTap-Development has a point.

                    I thought you were more mentally capable. Try to stay in at least some of the contexts of this original post and the subsequent and preceding content and contexts.

                    In order to know the listed activities are some of the things that suck less than coding, I'd have to have done them.

                    And coding.

                    I have.

                    It's not necessary that one other condition be true, but just in case you're that naive about how advice is given:

                    Either:
                    a) I can't find something else to do with my life
                    OR
                    b) am unable to find another way to express myself

                    Say, for example, I dearly want to prototype and show a game concept that's difficult to express to other coders and/or requires a lot of adjustment and refinement to find its sweet spots. That would make the second condition true and justify the use of hyperPad (and coding) whilst not making the first condition true.

                    No straw man to swing at, no hypocrisy to claim.

                    Hold that thought, since it's one you've known before, but seem to have forgotten, as has @iTap-Development.

                    I get that you are keen to see me painted as hypocritical and/or invalidated in what I'm saying. I get that you think any one invalidation of any one thing might make it easier for you to ignore, disparage or forget anything else I've said that's caused you issues.

                    But to do so you're supporting the removal of all context you already know, and denying the most basic of logic and rationale for saying anything negative about coding.

                    Some of which is that I'm giving life advice from the point of view of experience and understanding.

                    So you're setting yourself up to fail at hating on what you're hearing. That will make it true of you.

                    In order to give this advice, with any confidence, I'd have to be older and more experienced than you, and you be young, inexperienced in other forms of coding and, possibly, inexperienced in the joys of some of the activities I've listed as sucking less than coding, whilst hyperPad usage not be a fully fledged example of, or pathway to, a career in coding.

                    I am, you are, hyperPad is not.

                    I know this to be true of both of you, and @GameCRAZY, for whom this thread is intended. This you both know, and is discernible by where this came from and the next piece of content and context: the Swift commentary. If you don't know hyperPad is not a careerist coder's path or tool, I hope you do now.

                    If you still think @iTap-Development has a point, I'm quite sure you're going to struggle with the understanding and retention of contexts needed to make sense of Swift initialisation.

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                    @deeeds I do not know what to say. Just, What?

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                    • D Deeeds

                      @Aidan-Oxley I'm surprised you think @iTap-Development has a point.

                      I thought you were more mentally capable. Try to stay in at least some of the contexts of this original post and the subsequent and preceding content and contexts.

                      In order to know the listed activities are some of the things that suck less than coding, I'd have to have done them.

                      And coding.

                      I have.

                      It's not necessary that one other condition be true, but just in case you're that naive about how advice is given:

                      Either:
                      a) I can't find something else to do with my life
                      OR
                      b) am unable to find another way to express myself

                      Say, for example, I dearly want to prototype and show a game concept that's difficult to express to other coders and/or requires a lot of adjustment and refinement to find its sweet spots. That would make the second condition true and justify the use of hyperPad (and coding) whilst not making the first condition true.

                      No straw man to swing at, no hypocrisy to claim.

                      Hold that thought, since it's one you've known before, but seem to have forgotten, as has @iTap-Development.

                      I get that you are keen to see me painted as hypocritical and/or invalidated in what I'm saying. I get that you think any one invalidation of any one thing might make it easier for you to ignore, disparage or forget anything else I've said that's caused you issues.

                      But to do so you're supporting the removal of all context you already know, and denying the most basic of logic and rationale for saying anything negative about coding.

                      Some of which is that I'm giving life advice from the point of view of experience and understanding.

                      So you're setting yourself up to fail at hating on what you're hearing. That will make it true of you.

                      In order to give this advice, with any confidence, I'd have to be older and more experienced than you, and you be young, inexperienced in other forms of coding and, possibly, inexperienced in the joys of some of the activities I've listed as sucking less than coding, whilst hyperPad usage not be a fully fledged example of, or pathway to, a career in coding.

                      I am, you are, hyperPad is not.

                      I know this to be true of both of you, and @GameCRAZY, for whom this thread is intended. This you both know, and is discernible by where this came from and the next piece of content and context: the Swift commentary. If you don't know hyperPad is not a careerist coder's path or tool, I hope you do now.

                      If you still think @iTap-Development has a point, I'm quite sure you're going to struggle with the understanding and retention of contexts needed to make sense of Swift initialisation.

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                      @deeeds since dancing has been mentioned;
                      Advising other coders not to code(while coding yourself) because you think it sucks, is equivalent to showing up for your dance class and dancing and telling everyone it sucks and that they should avoid it if possible.

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                      • iTap DevelopmentI iTap Development

                        @deeeds since dancing has been mentioned;
                        Advising other coders not to code(while coding yourself) because you think it sucks, is equivalent to showing up for your dance class and dancing and telling everyone it sucks and that they should avoid it if possible.

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                        @itap-development Lol yep.

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                        • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                          @itap-development Lol yep.

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                          @aidan-oxley You can't possibly fail that badly at logic without deliberately doing so.

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                          • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                            @itap-development Lol yep.

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                            @iTap-Development You're special.

                            Start here: https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

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                              @iTap-Development You're special.

                              Start here: https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

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                              @deeeds I have no idea what you’re talking about. You said coding sucks in a forum full of people that like coding. How is that different to as iTap said going into say a dancing class then telling everyone that dancing sucks? The response you’ll most likely get from everyone is “then why are you here?”.

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                              • D Deeeds

                                @iTap-Development You're special.

                                Start here: https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

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                                iTap Development
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                                @deeeds said in Coding Sucks:

                                @iTap-Development You're special.

                                Start here: https://www.stilldrinking.org/programming-sucks

                                I’m....flattered!?!?

                                That is a disgusting looking link 🤮....sorry

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                                • D Deeeds

                                  @aidan-oxley You can't possibly fail that badly at logic without deliberately doing so.

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                                  @deeeds said in Coding Sucks:

                                  @aidan-oxley You can't possibly fail that badly at logic without deliberately doing so.

                                  Would you mind elaborating on how/what exactly he failed, why it was failure, and what you would consider not failure?

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                                    It is important to always remember that dancing sucks. In all its forms. Always.

                                    If you can find something else to do with your life, or other ways to express yourself, choose them.

                                    Only as a dire and last resort, go to dancing.

                                    Dancing at first seems easy and simple... but if you think it is simple you're making misconceptions and missing its true nature.

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                                    • KamdroidK Kamdroid

                                      It is important to always remember that dancing sucks. In all its forms. Always.

                                      If you can find something else to do with your life, or other ways to express yourself, choose them.

                                      Only as a dire and last resort, go to dancing.

                                      Dancing at first seems easy and simple... but if you think it is simple you're making misconceptions and missing its true nature.

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                                      @kamdroid Right below Dancing you'll find something else people that don't like dancing also dislike.

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                                      • D Deeeds

                                        @kamdroid Right below Dancing you'll find something else people that don't like dancing also dislike.

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                                        @deeeds The point is, different people like different things. Coding does not suck, but people (like you) dislike it. Dancing does not sucks, but people like me, Kamdroid and iTap dislike it.

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                                        • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                                          @deeeds The point is, different people like different things. Coding does not suck, but people (like you) dislike it. Dancing does not sucks, but people like me, Kamdroid and iTap dislike it.

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                                          @aidan-oxley You're probably well suited to a career in coding.

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