Colliding
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@Thecheater887 Are you German?
Haha, no lol. Fixed that one up. Sorry!
@Aidan-Oxley said in Colliding:
@Thecheater887 Is this empty object the spawner of the spawned object?
...Heh?
“It won’t spawn an object there”, where? I might need more details about exactly what you want to happen.
The empty object that spawns in the enemies and dynamic effects (well call it the replicator) rotates around, and follows the parent. Every frame, it rotates 14.6 degrees, and generates a random number between 0 and 50000. If the number is less than 10000, it spawn a special effect. If it’s less than 12500, it spawns a trashmob enemy, etc. In order to not stack 8 of something at once, I attempted to implement a system taking advantage of collisions to determine whether or not the Replicator was already “viewing” (on top of, colliding with) an object it had previously spawned. If the Replicator is “viewing” an object it had previously spawned, it won’t spawn another object on top of it, or shouldn’t, rather.
If the Replicator is “viewing” an object it had previously spawned, it won’t spawn another object on top of it, or shouldn’t, rather.
This is where my problem lies.
I can’t get the “collided” event to trigger, signifying to the replicator it is not a clean area to spawn.
@Thecheater887 So you don’t want the replicator to spawn a new object while I spawned object isn’t already on top of it. And you can’t disable spawning for a few seconds, or however many seconds it might take for the spawned object to go away, after spawning an object?
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@Thecheater887 So you don’t want the replicator to spawn a new object while I spawned object isn’t already on top of it. And you can’t disable spawning for a few seconds, or however many seconds it might take for the spawned object to go away, after spawning an object?
@Aidan-Oxley Spawned objects can only be destroyed by the player or by exiting the play area.
The player can move in 8 directions.
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@Aidan-Oxley Spawned objects can only be destroyed by the player or by exiting the play area.
The player can move in 8 directions.
@Thecheater887 Hmm, the time it takes for spawned objects to leave is quite random. Are you sure none of your objects are scenery, if the collision just won’t activate? I would’ve expected that the object constantly rotating might even spam the collision behaviour.
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@Thecheater887 Hmm, the time it takes for spawned objects to leave is quite random. Are you sure none of your objects are scenery, if the collision just won’t activate? I would’ve expected that the object constantly rotating might even spam the collision behaviour.
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@Aidan-Oxley All passive walls.
@Thecheater887 I’ve got no idea why the collided behaviour isn’t triggering. You could try reversing how you’re doing this, rather than detecting whether there’s an object and if there is don’t spawn another, have the spawned object tell then replicator when it has left? (If the player destroys it, tell the replicator the second it has died, if it has left the area, also tell the replicator etc). So the replicator will automatically turn off its own spawning after spawning an object, and it has to wait until a spawned object turns its spawning back on.
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@Thecheater887 This is EXACTLY the kind of problem that stems from not being able to store a reference in your replicator to the instance it has spawned.
Instead, you have to use tags. Which means ALL objects with that tag will say they're colliding, if they are. So you won't be able to get the most recently spawned instance this way.
You'll have to make other logic that does that, basically a manual filtering of all those with the given tag. Probably using a convoluted approach to attributes that know their order, or a sequence of live values in an array or some other approach that gets around the lack of referencing.
It boggles my mind that nobody has bothered to write up at least one of the ways to get around referencing. Everyone knows it's an issue.
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@Thecheater887 I’ve got no idea why the collided behaviour isn’t triggering. You could try reversing how you’re doing this, rather than detecting whether there’s an object and if there is don’t spawn another, have the spawned object tell then replicator when it has left? (If the player destroys it, tell the replicator the second it has died, if it has left the area, also tell the replicator etc). So the replicator will automatically turn off its own spawning after spawning an object, and it has to wait until a spawned object turns its spawning back on.
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@iTap-Development I still don't understand your way of doing it. You never explained it.
"arrays... something... something ..."
Go re-read😄
@iTap-Development I asked you questions, at the time, and made it clear I wasn't understanding your shorthand. You didn't explain, nor answer my questions. When I asked you to provide any form of justification for your approach being better than mine, you went weird. All up, I left the subject thinking you don't really know much about it. Nor can you explain or educate others on what you're doing to replace referencing.
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@Aidan-Oxley That’s fine fire making sure of not double spawning, but I need to know when it returns, too.
@Thecheater887 Ah, didn’t think of that.
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@iTap-Development I asked you questions, at the time, and made it clear I wasn't understanding your shorthand. You didn't explain, nor answer my questions. When I asked you to provide any form of justification for your approach being better than mine, you went weird. All up, I left the subject thinking you don't really know much about it. Nor can you explain or educate others on what you're doing to replace referencing.
@Deeeds I don’t remember where we left off, but if you still have questions I don’t mind trying to explain again.
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@Deeeds I don’t remember where we left off, but if you still have questions I don’t mind trying to explain again.
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@iTap-Development Cheater has questions... the one above.
How do you solve THIS problem?
@Deeeds the problem is that his replicator isn’t triggering a collide with the objects it has spawned? Correct?
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I think maybe cheater should just give a link to their project (or a duplicate of it with lots of stuff missing if afraid of people stealing the game), so someone can figure out for sure why the collided isn’t triggering.
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I think maybe cheater should just give a link to their project (or a duplicate of it with lots of stuff missing if afraid of people stealing the game), so someone can figure out for sure why the collided isn’t triggering.
@Aidan-Oxley could it have to do with him moving/rotating on a duration of 0? Since those aren’t physics behaviors?
“The empty object uses custom rotation and standard movement on a 0 duration.”
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Eh, nope. Just tested.
@Thecheater887 I’m assuming the object you are spawning has a tag, and that tag is selected for the collide behavior? -
Eh, nope. Just tested.
@Thecheater887 I’m assuming the object you are spawning has a tag, and that tag is selected for the collide behavior?@iTap-Development Yes.
I use no physics objects, all passive walls.
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@iTap-Development Yes.
I use no physics objects, all passive walls.
@Thecheater887 ah! I think the problem is that they are walls. Walls can’t collide with walls.
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@Thecheater887 ah! I think the problem is that they are walls. Walls can’t collide with walls.
@iTap-Development Since when!? Last I checked, the only difference between walls and physics are that walls have 0 for gravity bounce air resistance etc.
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@iTap-Development Since when!? Last I checked, the only difference between walls and physics are that walls have 0 for gravity bounce air resistance etc.
@Thecheater887 walls are stationary, so they shouldn’t be colliding in the first place(with the exception of move behaviors). I could be wrong, but I think I’ve seen this in the help pages before.
@Murtaza @Hamed is this right? -
@Thecheater887 walls are stationary, so they shouldn’t be colliding in the first place(with the exception of move behaviors). I could be wrong, but I think I’ve seen this in the help pages before.
@Murtaza @Hamed is this right?@iTap-Development That’s the thing, my custom rotation is using a move behavior.
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