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Else if is broken

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  • D Deeeds

    @Aidan-Oxley

    You're going to regret this...

    Here's just two:

    @Aidan-Oxley

    If speed is less than 10 but more than 2 OR less than -2 and more than -10, AND rotation is greater than 20 but less than 40 OR less than -20 and greater than -40

    else if speed is less than 20 but more than 10 OR less than -10 and more than -20 AND rotation is greater than 40 but less than 80 OR less than -40 but more than -80

    else

    etc...

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    @Deeeds Challenge accepted.

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    • D Deeeds

      @Aidan-Oxley

      You're going to regret this...

      Here's just two:

      @Aidan-Oxley

      If speed is less than 10 but more than 2 OR less than -2 and more than -10, AND rotation is greater than 20 but less than 40 OR less than -20 and greater than -40

      else if speed is less than 20 but more than 10 OR less than -10 and more than -20 AND rotation is greater than 40 but less than 80 OR less than -40 but more than -80

      else

      etc...

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      • D Deeeds

        @Aidan-Oxley

        You're going to regret this...

        Here's just two:

        @Aidan-Oxley

        If speed is less than 10 but more than 2 OR less than -2 and more than -10, AND rotation is greater than 20 but less than 40 OR less than -20 and greater than -40

        else if speed is less than 20 but more than 10 OR less than -10 and more than -20 AND rotation is greater than 40 but less than 80 OR less than -40 but more than -80

        else

        etc...

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        Aidan_Fire
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        #17

        @Deeeds How’s this?
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        • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

          @Deeeds How’s this?
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          Deeeds
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          #18

          @Aidan-Oxley Where is "else"?

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          • D Deeeds

            @Aidan-Oxley Where is "else"?

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            #19

            @Deeeds It’s implied by the behaviours. Both conditions cannot be met at the same time, so I don’t need any else. If one of the sides of this particular Else happens, the other cannot.

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            • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

              @Deeeds It’s implied by the behaviours. Both conditions cannot be met at the same time, so I don’t need any else. If one of the sides of this particular Else happens, the other cannot.

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              #20

              @Aidan-Oxley Huh?

              I'm confused.

              Else, in my example, is everything else. Outside these ranges.

              You've helped me see that you and I should help the lads design a better conditional node.... behaviour.

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              • D Deeeds

                @Aidan-Oxley Huh?

                I'm confused.

                Else, in my example, is everything else. Outside these ranges.

                You've helped me see that you and I should help the lads design a better conditional node.... behaviour.

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                @Deeeds The conditions you asked me to make can only be one or the other, there was no reason for me to put anything in to do “Else”. Speed cannot be between 2 and 10 but also 10 and 20 at the same time, so I don’t need to have an Else between them. Makes sense?

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                • D Deeeds

                  @Aidan-Oxley Huh?

                  I'm confused.

                  Else, in my example, is everything else. Outside these ranges.

                  You've helped me see that you and I should help the lads design a better conditional node.... behaviour.

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                  Aidan_Fire
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                  #22

                  @Deeeds Oooohhh I think I understand now, you have 2 else’s between 3 bunches of conditions. You want another condition for if all that junk isn’t true. Gimme a sec I’ll give another screenshot.

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                  • D Deeeds

                    @Aidan-Oxley Huh?

                    I'm confused.

                    Else, in my example, is everything else. Outside these ranges.

                    You've helped me see that you and I should help the lads design a better conditional node.... behaviour.

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                    Aidan_Fire
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                    #23

                    @Deeeds This could’ve been done with a tonne more Ifs, but I can just disable behaviours, then enable them again once they’ve been missed. Taking advantage of how hyperPad executes behaviours.
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                    • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                      @Deeeds This could’ve been done with a tonne more Ifs, but I can just disable behaviours, then enable them again once they’ve been missed. Taking advantage of how hyperPad executes behaviours.
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                      #24

                      @Aidan-Oxley I'm 99% sure your Else, in this situation, will get invoked (called) before the ifs reach a conclusion that they should turn your Else behaviour off.

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                      • D Deeeds

                        @Aidan-Oxley I'm 99% sure your Else, in this situation, will get invoked (called) before the ifs reach a conclusion that they should turn your Else behaviour off.

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                        #25

                        @Deeeds Already checked that. I gave speed and rotation a value, then made Else and Stuff behaviour bundles have some visual effect behaviours, and it all worked as intended.

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                          I really like how neat the execute sequence of behaviours is!

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                          • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                            I really like how neat the execute sequence of behaviours is!

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                            @Aidan-Oxley Where are you using execute sequence here?

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                              @Aidan-Oxley Where are you using execute sequence here?

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                              @Deeeds Sorry, I mean the order in which behaviours execute under an event, not the Execute Sequence behaviour. Like how they do each branch first, then move on left to right, but only after each whole branch is finished.

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                              • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                                @Deeeds Sorry, I mean the order in which behaviours execute under an event, not the Execute Sequence behaviour. Like how they do each branch first, then move on left to right, but only after each whole branch is finished.

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                                @Aidan-Oxley That's not how it works. If you set up anything with a duration in a branch, you'll see that it jumps from left to right as fast as it possibly can, only downward movement through a branch is stalled by the durations.

                                Similarly, anything that takes a long time to create a result isn't worried about, either... I think.

                                I'm pretty sure that calls across (left to right) are blind, as fast as can be done... so far as I can tell.

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                                • D Deeeds

                                  @Aidan-Oxley That's not how it works. If you set up anything with a duration in a branch, you'll see that it jumps from left to right as fast as it possibly can, only downward movement through a branch is stalled by the durations.

                                  Similarly, anything that takes a long time to create a result isn't worried about, either... I think.

                                  I'm pretty sure that calls across (left to right) are blind, as fast as can be done... so far as I can tell.

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                                  @Deeeds That’s different. I’m talking about behaviours with no duration at all. As soon as they have a duration and behaviours connected underneath them, stuff changes. But still, I tested it, and it works. Idk about the more power hungry behaviours, maybe we should test that out too. But I’ve never ever had a behaviour to the right in a row activate before one to the left finishes (other than behaviours that have a duration).

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                                  • Aidan_FireA Aidan_Fire

                                    @Deeeds That’s different. I’m talking about behaviours with no duration at all. As soon as they have a duration and behaviours connected underneath them, stuff changes. But still, I tested it, and it works. Idk about the more power hungry behaviours, maybe we should test that out too. But I’ve never ever had a behaviour to the right in a row activate before one to the left finishes (other than behaviours that have a duration).

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                                    @Aidan-Oxley I don't think so. I think you're just getting lucky, that the conditionals are happening fast enough (in this case) to get to the behaviour off before calling your Else behaviour. Push this hard, 100x, with others things happening, and I'm reasonably sure that you're going to get a few false elses firing...

                                    @hamed any chance of this? Or do you have some kind of filtering that's making sure branches complete before moving from left to right?

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                                    • D Deeeds

                                      @Aidan-Oxley I don't think so. I think you're just getting lucky, that the conditionals are happening fast enough (in this case) to get to the behaviour off before calling your Else behaviour. Push this hard, 100x, with others things happening, and I'm reasonably sure that you're going to get a few false elses firing...

                                      @hamed any chance of this? Or do you have some kind of filtering that's making sure branches complete before moving from left to right?

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                                      @Deeeds Getting lucky? I’ve used hyperPad for like 5 years, made hyperPad super laggy, done all sorts of stuff, behaviours ALWAYS execute left to right.

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                                        @Deeeds Getting lucky? I’ve used hyperPad for like 5 years, made hyperPad super laggy, done all sorts of stuff, behaviours ALWAYS execute left to right.

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                                        @Aidan-Oxley I don't doubt they execute left to right, I'm doubting that they wait for their branch to finish before going further right to make the next call.

                                        Are you 100% sure?

                                        As to making it laggy... I can do that with ease. I think anyone can ;)

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                                        • D Deeeds

                                          @Aidan-Oxley I don't doubt they execute left to right, I'm doubting that they wait for their branch to finish before going further right to make the next call.

                                          Are you 100% sure?

                                          As to making it laggy... I can do that with ease. I think anyone can ;)

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                                          #34

                                          @Deeeds Left to right, completing the whole branch before moving on to the right. Unless the branch has some sort of intentional duration. It worked in my test project, that’s enough to convince me. Could try put some loops in there and see what happens.

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