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    • HamedH
      Hamed Admin
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      Also, updates are slow because our app is in both a really stable state and a really broken state. For our more hardcore users (you guys), we're fixing pretty much all the issues at once because they all relate to each other, while making sure that the app stays stable for everyone else.

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      • Aidan_FireA
        Aidan_Fire
        last edited by Aidan_Fire

        @deeeds idk why you like to attack them so much.

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        • HamedH
          Hamed Admin
          last edited by Hamed

          We're also working on Hyperpad full time. But it’s hard. There’s a reason why we're the only WYSIWYG game creator on iPad.

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          • Aidan_FireA
            Aidan_Fire @Hamed
            last edited by Aidan_Fire

            @hamed when I let the project with them timers run for long enough, ALL of the timers have a different number. There's a 0s timer, 1s timer, 0.5s timer, 0.25s timer, 0.2s timer and a 0.1s timer. All of those are divisible by 60 (1 frame, 60 frames, 30 frames, 15 frames, 12 frames, 6 frames respectively).

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            • Aidan_FireA
              Aidan_Fire
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              The smaller the number in the timer, the lower their number is after leaving it for a while (except 0s, it ends up with the highest). Timers are adding to a label their own time (0.1s timer adds 0.1, 0.2s adds 0.2 etc).

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                Deeeds @Hamed
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                @hamed Bullshit.

                The primary fix (independence from CADisplayLink) isolates you from the problems without creating other obligations and changes nothing of significance about cocos2D.

                I might even know this to be fact.

                I know you do.

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                  Deeeds @Aidan_Fire
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                  @aidan-oxley said in Timers not in time:

                  when I let the project with them timers run for long enough, ALL of the timers have a different number. There's a 0s timer, 1s timer, 0.5s timer, 0.25s timer, 0.2s timer and a 0.1s timer. All of those are divisible by 60 (1 frame, 60 frames, 30 frames, 15 frames, 12 frames, 6 frames respectively)
                  And this is only one part of the problem.

                  If you have multiple timers, and they all do your "rounding" @hamed, then every single one must be manually forcibly reset, without knowing which one is the problem.

                  This, the lack of functions and references generally indicate you don't care about your (very few) users.

                  Stop writing. Just fix it. Update it. Then go play with your efforts to become virtual currency "playas".

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                    Deeeds @Hamed
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                    @hamed said in Timers not in time:

                    We're also working on Hyperpad full time. But it’s hard. There’s a reason why we're the only WYSIWYG game creator on iPad.

                    You're not the only WYSIWYG game creator on iPad. You're just the only one that never gets around to updating. The other significant one manages to create up to date documentation and samples and fixes, and updates to 3D and ARKit, despite having a programming team of the exact same size.... because they ACTUALLY work on it more than a little. Not full time, but more than you.

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                      Deeeds @Aidan_Fire
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                      @aidan-oxley No attack, yet. Just observation, commentary and critique. When you know the difference between those things and an actual attack, you'll be ready for a career in media. If you believe this is toxicity or need a safe space, that's on you.

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                      • HamedH
                        Hamed Admin
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                        That's pretty creepy. What we do on our own time is our own business.

                        @Aidan-Oxley I've downloaded your project and will take a look

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                        • Aidan_FireA
                          Aidan_Fire @Deeeds
                          last edited by Aidan_Fire

                          @deeeds There's another WYSIWYG game creator on iPad? Maybe you should delete hyperPad and go download that one, and then you won't have to complain so much. Have you never seen a hyperPad update? They do get around to it, they just take a while.

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                            Deeeds @Aidan_Fire
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                            @aidan-oxley try Codea and Construct 3

                            Neither offer Chipmunk2D and cocos2D rendering, but they're both very good at what they do, and far better in just about every way, other than the above mentioned two things.

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                              Deeeds @Aidan_Fire
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                              @aidan-oxley In direct answer, no. Have not seen an update in the time I've been using hyperPad.

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                                Deeeds @Hamed
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                                @hamed Just a lucky coincident. Your brother and I know someone in common and they share an interest. I spent some time consulting on their desire to create an ICO based on a shared proof of work concept that was pretty cool. Then they got carried away effectively gambling on existing virtual currencies... which seems to be a common distraction.

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                                  Deeeds @Hamed
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                                  @hamed I'm very keen to see a proof of work concept come to reality that's not parasitical
                                  and/or inefficient, wasteful use of computing and/or energy. Current forms of "mining" are, in my view, legacy guff. The ideas of shared ledger DBs have been proven, now it's time to find ways to make any virtual currency's distribution mechanisms generally beneficial rather than deliberately exclusive via "crypto mining" and/or other wasteful, purposeless means. It is an interesting space, the idea that a currency's means of distribution and creation be beneficial to its inherent purpose as a store and transfer of value.

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                                  • Aidan_FireA
                                    Aidan_Fire @Deeeds
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                                    @deeeds Well just so you know hyperPad updates do actually exist, they are rare, and have loads of content. What's so good about chipmunk and cocos that makes you choose hyperPad over Codea or Construct 3? You clearly have a LOT of issues with hyperPad.

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                                    • iTap DevelopmentI
                                      iTap Development @Aidan_Fire
                                      last edited by iTap Development

                                      @aidan-oxley said in Timers not in time:

                                      @deeeds Well just so you know hyperPad updates do actually exist, they are rare, and have loads of content. What's so good about chipmunk and cocos that makes you choose hyperPad over Codea or Construct 3? You clearly have a LOT of issues with hyperPad.

                                      @Aidan-Oxley Mind if I edit that last bit there? Thanks! Here goes- You clearly have a LOT of issues in life.
                                      Oh, so much better!

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                                      • MurtazaM
                                        Murtaza Admin @iTap Development
                                        last edited by Murtaza

                                        @itap-development said in Timers not in time:

                                        @aidan-oxley said in Timers not in time:

                                        @deeeds Well just so you know hyperPad updates do actually exist, they are rare, and have loads of content. What's so good about chipmunk and cocos that makes you choose hyperPad over Codea or Construct 3? You clearly have a LOT of issues with hyperPad.

                                        @Aidan-Oxley Mind if I edit that last bit there? Thanks! Here goes- You clearly have a LOT of issues in life.
                                        Oh, so much better!

                                        Oh he definitely has issues. Looks like he's stalking me and Hamed online. Apparently our hobbies and what we do in our free time is now his business.

                                        Deeeds, any suggestions on what I should have for dinner tonight? At this point I'm sure you know what's in my fridge too. 🤣

                                        Also, once again leave it to Deeeds to take a topic incredibly off course making it harder for us to find issues and fix them. Then he questions why updates take so long.

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                                          Deeeds @Murtaza
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                                          @murtaza calm down kids.

                                          An unlucky coincident led me to knowing more about you than I wanted.

                                          The good news: it relieved me, somewhat, because it explained why you're not focused on hyperPad.

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                                          • iTap DevelopmentI
                                            iTap Development @Deeeds
                                            last edited by iTap Development

                                            @deeeds I’m sure everyone tells you this, but YOU ARE SUCH A LOSER!
                                            Why don’t you just leave them alone? They’ve offered you a refund on your purchase of Hyperpad, why don’t you leave? Yes, we all find annoying bugs, YES they fix them, and yes it takes a while. But it’s worth it. That’s just what happens when new features are added.
                                            From what you say, you hate Hyperpad. But you stick around. So 1. You don’t really hate it, but are dealing with a mental disorder. 2. You just want to be here to bother them....okay yeah, you still have a mental disorder.

                                            @Murtaza maybe we should all stop over at your place for dinner tonight and we could talk over deeeds issues and figure out the best medical treatment?

                                            Oh, and I get to pick dinner! I choose....uh, pizza!

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