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  • BryanB Bryan

    @Oli
    Trank you very much. I testen it out, but I think I did something wrong.

    Could it be possible for you to cremte a litte Hub, so I could see what exactle you did.

    Best wishes,

    Bryan

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    Jack de Wilde
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    #5

    @Bryan I'm confused... do you want lightning or lighting???

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    • Jack de WildeJ Jack de Wilde

      @Bryan I'm confused... do you want lightning or lighting???

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      #6

      @Jack8680 I think he means lighting, maybe a typo🤔

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        Bryan
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        Oh sorry yeah I mean lighting. I made a typing error,

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          Oh, you will need an image maker/editor then to make a black shape to take up the entire screen and a blurry transparent spot (so everything except the blurry transparent spot appears black)

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          • BryanB Bryan

            Oh sorry yeah I mean lighting. I made a typing error,

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            Jack de Wilde
            wrote on last edited by Jack8680
            #9

            0_1480921732157_IMG_2556.PNG @Bryan you can use this if you want, I'm not sure whether it's exactly what you're looking for. (Save to camera roll, it shows as black because of the transparency)

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              You will want to set the blending mode of any B&W image to DODGE also.

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              • TutorialDoctorT TutorialDoctor

                You will want to set the blending mode of any B&W image to DODGE also.

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                @TutorialDoctor why?

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                • MurtazaM Offline
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                  #12

                  The dodge blending mode will lighten anything behind it as well.

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                  • MurtazaM Murtaza

                    The dodge blending mode will lighten anything behind it as well.

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                    @Murtaza oh ok

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                    • MurtazaM Murtaza

                      The dodge blending mode will lighten anything behind it as well.

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                      Jack de Wilde
                      wrote on last edited by Jack8680
                      #14

                      @Murtaza but it also adds white to black, so instead of lighting, it will look very faded but brighter, which doesn't exactly look right: 0_1481165513559_IMG_2559.PNG

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                      • Jack de WildeJ Jack de Wilde

                        @Murtaza but it also adds white to black, so instead of lighting, it will look very faded but brighter, which doesn't exactly look right: 0_1481165513559_IMG_2559.PNG

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                        Murtaza
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                        #15

                        @Jack8680 Well yeah. It depends heavily on your other graphics :).

                        Try the other blend options.
                        Here's an explanation of them:
                        https://hyperpad.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/211305123-Color-Blending

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                        • MurtazaM Murtaza

                          @Jack8680 Well yeah. It depends heavily on your other graphics :).

                          Try the other blend options.
                          Here's an explanation of them:
                          https://hyperpad.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/211305123-Color-Blending

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                          Jack de Wilde
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                          @Murtaza I've played with all the blend options before, but to create something that feels like real lighting I think we would need the masking blend option, so we can mask a black layer to reveal the background. And then maybe that could be combined with a transparent dodge to produce a kind of glare effect for more intense areas of light.

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                            This is the effect I get using Dodge. Make the lights with transparent backgrounds.

                            0_1481301676783_IMG_1299.PNG

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                            • Jack de WildeJ Jack de Wilde

                              @Murtaza I've played with all the blend options before, but to create something that feels like real lighting I think we would need the masking blend option, so we can mask a black layer to reveal the background. And then maybe that could be combined with a transparent dodge to produce a kind of glare effect for more intense areas of light.

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                              Murtaza
                              Admin
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #18

                              @Jack8680 it's. It a replacement for real lighting. But it is a great way to bring some life to your scene and make them feel more dynamic.

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                              • MurtazaM Murtaza

                                @Jack8680 it's. It a replacement for real lighting. But it is a great way to bring some life to your scene and make them feel more dynamic.

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                                Jack de Wilde
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                                I agree that it looks good with dodge, but mask would allow for more realistic lighting.

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                                  Dodge gives some pretty good results. Using a gradient, the whiter the more intense the light. Fade off to either black or opaque to simulate falloff.
                                  0_1481564871166_IMG_1308.PNG

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                                  • TutorialDoctorT TutorialDoctor

                                    Dodge gives some pretty good results. Using a gradient, the whiter the more intense the light. Fade off to either black or opaque to simulate falloff.
                                    0_1481564871166_IMG_1308.PNG

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                                    What I'm trying to say is that you have lighting but no darkness. In this case it looks good, but for games where you want pitch black darkness, it won't work. You could use a huge shape with a transparent gradient circle in the middle for a point of light, but this wouldn't work with multiple. Similarly, you might be able to use 2 triangles that scale/skew/rotate from each object if you want realistic lighting, but it would still only work for 1 light source. Your way looks like shining a bright light at something which is not dark in the first place. It's a cool effect, but nit the same as real lighting.

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                                    • Jack de WildeJ Jack de Wilde

                                      What I'm trying to say is that you have lighting but no darkness. In this case it looks good, but for games where you want pitch black darkness, it won't work. You could use a huge shape with a transparent gradient circle in the middle for a point of light, but this wouldn't work with multiple. Similarly, you might be able to use 2 triangles that scale/skew/rotate from each object if you want realistic lighting, but it would still only work for 1 light source. Your way looks like shining a bright light at something which is not dark in the first place. It's a cool effect, but nit the same as real lighting.

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                                      Murtaza
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                                      @Jack8680 yup, like I said it's not a real replacement for lighting.

                                      We're working on an awesome lighting system that will be part of one of the next updates. Masking will also be part of it ( they rely on a similar change to layers).

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                                      • MurtazaM Murtaza

                                        @Jack8680 yup, like I said it's not a real replacement for lighting.

                                        We're working on an awesome lighting system that will be part of one of the next updates. Masking will also be part of it ( they rely on a similar change to layers).

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                                        @Murtaza does mask subtract brightness, transparancy, or just completely solidly mask the transparency? E.g. If I have a gradient from transparent to white, will it mask as that gradient or will the transparent part mask the object below it to invisible? Being able to mask using gradients would definitely allow for lighting, even shadows would be doable

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                                        • Jack de WildeJ Jack de Wilde

                                          @Murtaza does mask subtract brightness, transparancy, or just completely solidly mask the transparency? E.g. If I have a gradient from transparent to white, will it mask as that gradient or will the transparent part mask the object below it to invisible? Being able to mask using gradients would definitely allow for lighting, even shadows would be doable

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                                          @Jack8680 good question.. I'm not sure.

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